Read-only investigation of the chat request path, replica/resource manifests, and live node metrics. Documents the confirmed 4-user tenant-slot ceiling, a TENANT_SLOTS=8 vs replicas=4 configuration drift, the shared Claude-broker concurrency=2 bottleneck, missing HPA/PDB/staging environment, and a proposed SLO/load-test and staged scaling plan pending human approval. No production manifests changed. Co-Authored-By: Hermes Agent <hermes-automation@bstein.dev>
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Hermes multi-user capacity assessment
Status: read-only investigation, no production changes made. This document
answers "can Hermes safely handle more simultaneous users" with evidence from
the current titan-iac manifests/code, plus non-invasive live cluster reads.
It does not increase any replica count or concurrency cap.
0. Method and access boundary
- Static evidence:
services/hermes/**manifests andservices/hermes/router/*.go,services/hermes/scripts/*.pyon branchwt/t_65356568,git log/git blamefor recent drift. - Live evidence: read via the in-cluster
atlas-observerkubeconfig context. This identity (system:serviceaccount:hermes:hermes-agent) is observer-only:kubectl -n hermes get pods/deploy/sts/hpa/pdball returnedForbidden.kubectl -n hermes auth can-i --listconfirms the only granted verbs are cluster-scopedget/list/watchonnamespaces,nodes,persistentvolumes, storage APIs, andnodes.metrics.k8s.io, plus API discovery/health endpoints. There is no namespace-scoped read access to pods, deployments, replica counts, or pod-level resource usage inhermes(or any namespace) from this session. This matches the standing finding that hermes-agent RBAC is observer-only. - What this means for this report: all replica counts, resource
requests/limits, probes, and affinity rules below are read from the Git
manifests (which is what Flux actually reconciles, so it is a trustworthy
source for desired state) rather than confirmed against live pod status.
Node-level capacity and current node CPU/memory utilization are live,
real-time cluster evidence (
nodes.metrics.k8s.io+nodesare both readable). One non-invasive HTTP probe againsthttps://chat.bstein.dev/confirmed the public endpoint is live and redirecting to auth (302) at the time of writing. - No pods, deployments, config, or replica counts were changed. No load test was executed against any environment.
1. Architecture and request path
browser
-> Traefik Ingress (chat.hermes.bstein.dev / chat.bstein.dev)
-> oauth2-proxy-hermes-chat (Deployment, replicas: 1, oauth2-proxy.yaml:153)
session state: Redis, externalized (--session-store-type=redis,
redis://hermes-oauth-sessions...:6379/1, oauth2-proxy.yaml:203-204)
-> hermes-chat-router (Deployment, replicas: 1, chat-router.yaml:10)
Go binary, services/hermes/router/main.go
in-process, PVC-persisted identity -> slot map (tenants.json)
-> hermes-chat-tenant-<slot>.hermes-chat-tenant (StatefulSet, replicas: 4,
chat-statefulset.yaml:13) — one pod per Keycloak subject, pinned by ordinal
webui (8787) -> gateway (8642) -> per-tenant sandbox (chat-sandbox-<ordinal>:9080)
-> hermes-switchyard (Deployment, replicas: 1, switchyard-deployment.yaml:10)
shared model router for ALL tenants + triage + Kanban
-> hermes-claude-broker / hermes-codex-broker (containers in hermes-agent pod,
replicas: 1, agent-deployment.yaml:10) / hermes-model-gate (Deployment,
replicas: 1, model-gate-deployment.yaml:10, proxies to local Ollama)
-> hermes-stt / hermes-tts (Deployments, replicas: 1 each, voice-deployment.yaml,
pinned to node titan-21, shared GPU)
Every component on this path is replicas: 1 except hermes-chat-tenant
(4). The StatefulSet is not a load-balanced pool: each pod is a fully isolated,
permanently-assigned per-user backend, not interchangeable capacity.
2. Known limits (confirmed from manifests/code)
2.1 Hard ceiling: 4 usable chat users today, and a live configuration bug
services/hermes/router/main.go (tenantRouter.slotFor, lines 153-176)
permanently assigns each Keycloak subject a slot 0..TENANT_SLOTS-1 on first
login, persists it to a PVC-backed JSON file, and never releases it. There is
no unassign/deprovision path in the router. Unit tests
(router/main_test.go, "expected the fixed private tenant pool to report
capacity") assert that once all slots are taken, slotFor returns an error.
Confirmed drift: chat-router.yaml:70 sets TENANT_SLOTS=8, but
chat-statefulset.yaml:13 sets replicas: 4. git log -p on both files
shows they were changed together at 18965a2f (4->8), then
chat-statefulset.yaml was scaled down twice — 79baa7ec ("return two chat
slots to fit the agent runtime", 8->6) and e28b32bd (6->4) — without a
matching change to TENANT_SLOTS, and chat-sandbox.yaml still defines 8
per-ordinal sandbox Deployments (hermes-chat-sandbox-0 through -7).
Net effect: the 5th–8th distinct Keycloak login is durably assigned a slot
that has no backing StatefulSet pod. main.go's proxy error path (around
line 382) returns a "starting" error to that user permanently, not just
during a cold start, because the pod will never exist at the current replica
count. This is a pre-existing configuration bug, independent of any future
scale-up decision, and it silently masks the real behavior of the capacity
ceiling (a 5th user does not get a clean "at capacity" rejection matching the
tested behavior — they get a StatefulSet-pod-not-found style failure).
This assessment does not fix it (per scope: no production changes), but
it should be the first fix considered before any scale-out, since it affects
correctness at the current replica count too.
2.2 The real shared bottleneck is not the 4 tenant pods, it's the brokers behind them
All 4 tenant pods, the triage/operator instance, and Kanban/CLI-lane traffic
funnel through the same single-replica hermes-switchyard, which routes to
the same single-replica hermes-claude-broker / hermes-codex-broker
(containers inside the one hermes-agent pod) or hermes-model-gate.
hermes-claude-brokerenforces a hard, code-level concurrency cap:HERMES_CLAUDE_BROKER_CONCURRENCY=2(agent-deployment.yaml:1160) sizes athreading.BoundedSemaphore(2)(scripts/claude_oauth_broker.py:63) wrapped around a blockingsubprocess.runcall to the native Claude Code CLI. Requests over the cap block silently (no 429/503 to the caller) until a slot frees. This cap is shared cluster-wide across every chat tenant, the triage instance, and indirectly the Kanban/CLI-lane workers (same provider credentials, so heavy CLI-lane usage can throttle chat responses via the provider's own rate limits even without touching this semaphore directly).hermes-codex-brokerandhermes-model-gatehave no equivalent concurrency cap in code — they are bounded only by container CPU/memorylimits(1 CPU / 1Gi for the codex-broker container, 250m/128Mi for model-gate) and by the single upstream Ollama/Jetson instance's real throughput, which is unknown (no load test exists).
Implication: scaling hermes-chat-tenant replicas alone (e.g. 4 -> 8)
does not proportionally increase real AI-response throughput. The
Claude-routed share of traffic is capped at 2 concurrent completions
regardless of how many tenant pods exist, and Codex/local-model throughput
under concurrent load is untested.
2.3 Single points of failure and deploy-time outage windows
- No
HorizontalPodAutoscalerexists anywhere in this repository (confirmed by a repo-wide grep, not justservices/hermes/). - No
PodDisruptionBudgetexists for any hermes component (the one PDB in the repo isinfrastructure/traefik/pdb.yaml, unrelated). oauth2-proxy,hermes-chat-router,hermes-switchyard,hermes-model-gate,hermes-agent(brokers), and voice STT/TTS are allreplicas: 1. A pod restart/crash/node drain on any of them takes down chat, voice, or model access for all users simultaneously, even though the tenant StatefulSet gives each user an isolated conversation backend.hermes(main/triage),hermes-chat-router,hermes-local-image, andhermes-agentall usestrategy: Recreate— every rollout is a full teardown-then-recreate, not a rolling update, adding a real availability gap bounded by readiness/livenessinitialDelaySeconds(up to 90s+ for the mainhermesdeployment). The only genuinely zero-downtime rollout path in this whole service ishermes-switchyard(RollingUpdate,maxSurge:1,maxUnavailable:0) and the tenant StatefulSet itself (RollingUpdate,podManagementPolicy: Parallel).- OAuth session storage (
hermes-oauth-sessions, a single RedisDeployment,replicas: 1,oauth-session-store.yaml) has no replication; its loss logs out every user cluster-wide (sessions are externalized from oauth2-proxy but not made highly available).
2.4 The cluster is a heterogeneous home-lab/edge fleet with real, uneven headroom
Live nodes.metrics.k8s.io reads (non-invasive) show 21 nodes: mostly
Raspberry Pi 4/5 workers (~3.6-4 vCPU / ~6.5-8GB allocatable each), plus a
few larger amd64/Jetson-class nodes with shared GPUs (titan-20/21, titan-22,
titan-24) and one large amd64 node (titan-23, 48 vCPU/256GB, no GPU, not
labeled worker). This is not elastic cloud capacity — headroom is
finite and already uneven:
| Node | CPU used/alloc | Mem used/alloc | Note |
|---|---|---|---|
| titan-12 | 3.95 / 3.60 (110%) | 5.65 / 6.50 (87%) | rpi4, already over its CPU allocatable at snapshot time |
| titan-13 | 3.45 / 3.60 (96%) | 5.85 / 6.50 (90%) | rpi4, hot |
| titan-17 | 2.71 / 3.60 (75%) | 5.54 / 6.50 (85%) | rpi4, hot on memory |
| titan-07 | 1.23 / 3.60 (34%) | 5.24 / 6.63 (79%) | rpi5, memory-constrained |
| titan-04 | 0.35 / 3.60 (10%) | 1.69 / 6.63 (26%) | rpi5, most headroom in the pool |
| titan-21 (voice, GPU) | 0.91 / 6.00 (15%) | 8.02 / 14.56 (55%) | shared GPU node, moderate headroom |
| titan-23 (48 vCPU/256GB, no GPU label) | 0.74 / 48 (1.5%) | 22.9 / 251.6 (9%) | large headroom, not currently used by hermes affinity rules (arm64-only selectors exclude it) |
| titan-24 (GPU, Wolf/Hermes shared) | 1.16 / 24 (4.8%) | 22.6 / 62.7 (36%) | model-gate/Ollama contention with Wolf, per NOTES.md |
chat-statefulset.yaml's node affinity (lines 54-74) requires arm64 +
node-role.kubernetes.io/worker=true and already excludes 7 specific
hostnames (titan-05,08,13,14,17,18,19) — but two of the nodes it currently
can still land on, titan-12 and titan-15, are already running at 75-110%
of allocatable CPU. Any additional tenant/broker/router replica scheduled
into this same arm64 worker pool inherits that contention; it is not safe to
assume "add a replica" has free capacity behind it without checking node
headroom at scale-out time. The large amd64 node (titan-23) has abundant
headroom but is excluded by the current arm64-only affinity rules on every
hermes component — worth a design question, not something this assessment
changes.
2.5 No staging/canary environment exists
services/hermes/kustomization.yaml is a single flat kustomization with no
overlay split. services/hermes-chat/ contains only a namespace and one PVC
(vestigial, no workload). services/hermes-triage-demo/ is unrelated
(Ariadne's automated-repair demo loop, no chat workload). Any load test
that exercises the real chat path runs against the production namespace and
the production hermes-chat-tenant StatefulSet — there is no isolated
copy to test against.
2.6 No load-test tooling and thin production metrics exist today
- No k6/locust/vegeta/wrk/artillery/ab scripts exist anywhere in the repo for hermes. A load test has to be built from scratch.
- No
ServiceMonitor/PodMonitor/PrometheusRuleobjects exist for hermes (annotation-based scraping only)./metricsexists for thehermes-agentpod (CLI/provider quota usage, port 9010),hermes-switchyard(port 9005, the richest signal —switchyard_requests_total,switchyard_model_call_latency_ms_bucket,switchyard_routing_overhead_ms_bucket,switchyard_errors_total,switchyard_client_responses_total), and the CLI-lane metrics service (port 9011, agent/Kanban-lane specific). No/metricsendpoint exists onhermes-chat-tenant,hermes-model-gate,oauth2-proxy,hermes-chat-router, or voice — there is no per-request latency/error signal from the actual multi-user chat pods themselves. services/monitoring/grafana-dashboard-ai.yamlalready has a P95 model-call-latency panel, a success/error-rate panel, and a per-pod CPU panel filtered tohermes-(agent|chat-tenant|switchyard|model-gate).*, all sourced from Switchyard metrics + cAdvisor — a usable baseline to reuse, but nothing is wired to an alert threshold, and there is no queue-depth or replica-health panel.
3. Unknowns (require an actual test to answer)
- Real max throughput of
hermes-switchyard,hermes-model-gate-> Ollama, and the STT/TTS GPU path under concurrent load — no data exists today. - Real behavior/latency of the Claude broker's semaphore-2 queue under contention (does it degrade gracefully to slow responses, or eventually time out and error?) — no data exists today.
- Whether oauth2-proxy + Redis session store can handle concurrent
logins/refreshes at a higher user count (currently untested; the
Deployment is stateless-safe to scale, but has never been scaled).
Also whether Redis itself (
hermes-oauth-sessions, 1Gi PVC, no HA) becomes a bottleneck or SPOF under more simultaneous sessions. - Actual current pod-level CPU/memory usage and restart history for any hermes component — not observable with the current RBAC grant. Only node-level aggregate usage is visible, not which pods are consuming it.
- Whether scaling
hermes-chat-tenanttoward its already-configuredTENANT_SLOTS=8(after fixing the mismatch) is actually safe given current node headroom (titan-12/titan-15 pressure, see 2.4) — needs a scheduling dry-run / headroom check at decision time, not assumed from this snapshot.
4. SLO and load-test proposal (not yet executed — needs approval, see §6)
4.1 Target SLOs to validate (proposed, for review)
| Metric | Proposed target | Source |
|---|---|---|
| P95 end-to-end chat response latency | < 8s for local/Codex-routed, < 20s for Claude-routed (queued behind semaphore-2) | new synthetic client timer + existing switchyard_model_call_latency_ms_bucket |
| Error rate (5xx / proxy failures) | < 1% sustained | new synthetic client + switchyard_errors_total / switchyard_client_responses_total |
| Login/session success rate | 100% (oauth2-proxy + Redis) | synthetic client HTTP status |
| Node CPU/mem headroom during test | stay below 90% allocatable on any node hosting hermes pods | nodes.metrics.k8s.io (already provably readable) |
| Claude-broker queue depth / wait time | document actual behavior, no target yet (unknown baseline) | needs new instrumentation — none exists today |
4.2 Concurrency / ramp / mix proposal
- Concurrency levels: 1 (baseline), 2 (at the Claude-broker cap), 4
(at today's real tenant-pool ceiling), and — only if §2.1's mismatch is
resolved and node headroom is re-checked — 8 (at the configured
TENANT_SLOTS). Do not exceed the number of actually-backed tenant slots. - Ramp: hold each level for at least 10 minutes after reaching steady state before increasing, to separate cold-start effects (webui/gateway startup, model warm-up) from steady-state capacity.
- Traffic mix: proportion requests across the three model routes (Claude / Codex / local Ollama) matching real usage if known, otherwise test each route in isolation first (to characterize each bottleneck independently — semaphore-2 vs. no-cap-but-untested), then a blended mix.
- Session behavior: each synthetic user must be a distinct, dedicated test Keycloak identity (slot assignment is permanent — do not burn real user slots or reuse production accounts for load generation).
- Failure injection (optional, staged): kill the single
hermes-switchyardorhermes-model-gatepod mid-test to confirm theRecreate/no-PDB SPOF behavior matches expectations and measure recovery time, only after the throughput characterization above is complete.
5. Safe staged scaling plan (for future execution, after human approval)
This is a plan to evaluate, not a plan already executed.
- Fix the
TENANT_SLOTS/replica-count mismatch first (§2.1). This is a correctness fix at the current capacity, not a capacity increase, and should land before any load test so results aren't confounded by the existing 502-on-phantom-slot bug. - Instrument before scaling: add
/metrics(or at minimum structured access logs) tohermes-chat-tenant,hermes-chat-router, andhermes-model-gateso a load test has a real per-request signal instead of relying solely on Switchyard's aggregate view. - Baseline test at today's real ceiling (4 users), off-hours, using dedicated test Keycloak identities, per §4.
- Re-check node headroom (§2.4) at decision time, not from this snapshot, before considering any StatefulSet scale-out — titan-12 and titan-15 were already at/above CPU allocatable during this assessment.
- If and only if the baseline is healthy and headroom allows, propose
scaling
hermes-chat-tenanttoward the already-configured 8 slots one or two ordinals at a time (StatefulSetpodManagementPolicy: Parallelsupports this), re-measuring node headroom and Switchyard/broker latency after each step. - Address the shared-broker ceiling separately from tenant-pod count:
raising
HERMES_CLAUDE_BROKER_CONCURRENCYabove 2 is a distinct decision gated by the underlying Claude Code provider's real rate limits, not by Kubernetes resources — do not conflate it with StatefulSet scaling. - Only after tenant/broker capacity is validated, consider whether the
single-replica shared components (
hermes-switchyard,hermes-model-gate,oauth2-proxy) need a second replica or a PDB — note oauth2-proxy is the only one of these that is currently stateless-safe to scale (Redis-backed sessions); the others would need code changes first (in-process locks/ state noted in §2).
6. Rollback and observability gates
- Every step above is a Git-reviewed manifest change applied via Flux, so
rollback is
git revert+ Flux reconcile, consistent with this repo's existing GitOps model — no manualkubectl editin any step. - Gate each scaling step on: node CPU/mem headroom (§2.4 thresholds), the
new
/metricssignal from step 2 above staying within the SLOs in §4.1, and zero increase inswitchyard_errors_total/switchyard_classifier_fail_open_totalrate versus the pre-change baseline. - Because there is no staging environment (§2.5) and no PDB, treat every step as a production change: schedule off-hours, announce before/after, and keep the prior manifest revision ready to revert immediately if error rate or node pressure crosses the gate.
- Because RBAC here is observer-only (§0), whoever executes a future load test needs either elevated read access to confirm live pod/replica status during the test, or must rely entirely on the node-metrics + Switchyard signals already proven readable in this assessment.
7. Recommendation
A load test against the current 4-user ceiling is reasonably safe to run
off-hours with dedicated test accounts, once §5 step 1 (the TENANT_SLOTS
mismatch) and step 2 (baseline metrics) are addressed — it does not
require any replica/cap increase, and the blast radius is bounded to
resources already provisioned.
A test at 8 concurrent users, or any StatefulSet/broker scale-up, is not yet safe to schedule. Two of the nodes in the current chat-tenant affinity pool are already at or above their allocatable CPU/memory (§2.4), there is no PDB/HPA anywhere in this service, there is no staging environment to absorb the risk, and the real throughput ceiling for Codex/local-model routes and the actual behavior of the Claude-broker queue under load are both unmeasured. Recommend running the 4-user baseline test first and using its results (plus a fresh node-headroom check) to decide whether 8-user scaling is warranted — this assessment does not make that call.
8. Requested input / blockers to proceed further
This assessment can be delivered without further input. To actually execute the load test proposed in §4, a human owner needs to provide or approve:
- Sign-off to fix the
TENANT_SLOTS/replica mismatch (§2.1) as a correctness PR, separate from any capacity increase. - Dedicated test Keycloak identities (slot assignment is permanent — production user accounts must not be used for load generation).
- An approved off-hours maintenance window, since there is no staging environment and every step in §5 is a production change.
- A decision on whether to add
/metricsinstrumentation (§5 step 2) before or in parallel with the first baseline test, since today's Switchyard-only signal cannot attribute latency/errors to a specific tenant pod. - If deeper live verification is wanted beyond node-level metrics
(e.g., live pod status/restart counts during a test), temporary
elevated read RBAC for the executing identity, since the current
atlas-observergrant cannot list pods/deployments inhermes(§0).